Ha ha! What a fantastic episode!!
I knew that it was going to be a good one from the moment Donna started up with her botched jazz era British colloquialisms. The reaction that both the Doctor and Donna had when meeting Agatha Christie just cemented it.
The music that punctuated the scene where the Doctor was poisoned was insanely brilliant, and the way that the episode slowly transitioned from lighthearted and comical, to serious and sober was well-paced.
My only complaint is the silly little relationship that they had to toss in between Roger Curbishley and Davenport, the butler. No point to that at all.
I knew that it was going to be a good one from the moment Donna started up with her botched jazz era British colloquialisms. The reaction that both the Doctor and Donna had when meeting Agatha Christie just cemented it.
The music that punctuated the scene where the Doctor was poisoned was insanely brilliant, and the way that the episode slowly transitioned from lighthearted and comical, to serious and sober was well-paced.
My only complaint is the silly little relationship that they had to toss in between Roger Curbishley and Davenport, the butler. No point to that at all.
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Re: "The Unicorn & The Wasp" (tiny spoilers)
Mon, May 19, 2008 - 4:38 PMIT was a very good eps do watch the Doctor Who Confidential tons of interesting things on this eps as they have Christie's Grandson helping out and he like the actress for this eps too
As for the son and butler .. most likely a RTD inside joke....i thought ti was no need as well but oh well.
BTW didn't the doctor run in to these type wasps before ? I think they were the same fro Space Ark maybe? not sure..
CC
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Re: "The Unicorn & The Wasp" (tiny spoilers)
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 4:49 AM<<I think they were the same fro Space Ark maybe? >>
Those were larger greener things that looked more like praying mantises besides they was dead.
Only quetion I have is how did he know to kill the made I mean if there was a telepathic link and the mother had known that the professor was about to uncover the answer that's one thing but the maid always had known so why not kill her right away why wait till she was about to talk and if he was how did he know she was about too. the son made sense as waspy would want to kill the other WASP (get it I made a funny)
and could the doctor have said "They're british" one more time
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Re: "The Unicorn & The Wasp" (tiny spoilers)
Thu, May 22, 2008 - 8:14 AMThe large insects (the Wirrn) from The Ark in Space weren't wasps, but the second Doctor did encounter giant wasps along with the Quarks in the comics printed in the 1960s.
It'd be cool if they brought back the Quarks.
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Re: "The Unicorn & The Wasp" (tiny spoilers)
Wed, June 18, 2008 - 7:59 AMThe whole point about the relationship between the son and the butler was to reenforce how the British upper-class of the period were more inclined to keep up appearances of propriety than to be true to themselves even when they they were being called as witnesses in a criminal investigation. It was a nice satirical commentary on the mores of the time-- and it is important to note that when time-traveling, that different eras will have different attitudes than one's own. (This is why it was important for Martha to experience the different attitudes regarding race and gender when she traveled into the past, or Rose to witness different working class experiences in her first journeys.)
Anyway, I have very mixed feelings about this episode:
1.) The cast was good to excellent.
2.) The monster was rubbish. A wasp that size would not be able to breathe, let alone carry its weight on either its wings or skinny legs. The loss of its stinger would also be a major injury-- and would take a long time to regrow assuming that the loss of the stinger did not kill it.
3.) We were robbed of the horror element by having a nearly instant metamorphosis from the vicar to the wasp. The main ingredient of bio-horror is the slow metamorphosis from one form to the other-- where the subject is just as frightened as the witnesses.
4.) The monster story and the upper-class murder mystery just weren't a good fit. Maybe it could have been if it had been more skillfully done.
5.) So what's the point? Reading crime-fiction turns gentle vespiforms who would otherwise be inclined to fall in love with the inhabitants of our planet into rampaging killing machines? Imagine what it does to humans. Worse, imagine what television and the internets might do.
6.) The story worked when it stayed in the upper-class murder mystery genre-- see my point about the mores of the milleau.
7.) The bit about the Doctor's alien biology was nice-- the idea that he can fight off poisoning if he can only get his hands on the right ingredients in the nick of time made for a great scene.
8.) If pepper is an insecticide, how the hell did the vespiform survive in India? What the hell was he eating? Scones and tea?
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Wed, June 18, 2008 - 7:28 PM9.) The dialogue was nicely written-- despite the plot holes.
10.) The direction was well crafted.
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Re: "The Unicorn & The Wasp" (tiny spoilers)
Fri, June 20, 2008 - 8:31 AM>>>2.) The monster was rubbish. A wasp that size would not be able to breathe, let alone carry its weight on either its wings or skinny legs. The loss of its stinger would also be a major injury-- and would take a long time to regrow assuming that the loss of the stinger did not kill it. <<<
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Re: "The Unicorn & The Wasp" (tiny spoilers)
Sat, June 21, 2008 - 7:26 AMok ... giant wasp not from earth it just LOOK like a wasp also let me point out
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Re: "The Unicorn & The Wasp" (tiny spoilers)
Sun, June 22, 2008 - 7:00 PMThere are conceits one accepts because they are part of the structure of the show. There are also conceits that are the result of poorly thought out concepts. These are two different things.
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Re: "The Unicorn & The Wasp" (tiny spoilers)
Wed, June 25, 2008 - 7:50 AMI thought the ep was mostly rubbish but fun to watch in some places. I didn't care that the wasp-like creature was that size. After all, we've had trouble explaining the aerodynamics of bees (real ones) until recently, and yet they've flown happily just the same.
I disagree about the poisoning scene. It seemed like madcap slapstick humor (with or without the second u), totally undignified for a 900 year old Time Lord. Tom, Peter, even Colin would never have flailed around like that. Classic Doc may have been looking through the kitchen (or a lab, or similar scene) in a hurried and somewhat frantic fashion, but not like that.
The side story of the son being gay is typical RTD heavy-handed preaching reminiscent of the Black-and-White-Cookie People from old school Trek.
My biggest complaint was how there'd been a few murders in the house and yet the show seemed very comical, as if it wasn't sure if it wanted to be a mystery or a (slapstick) comedy.
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Re: "The Unicorn & The Wasp" (tiny spoilers)
Wed, June 25, 2008 - 9:39 AMTom and Sylvester would have both done slapstick, but they really modeled themselves on the masters of that sort of comedy and so would have done it differently-- and they were both very skilled in that department.
Tom was hugely influenced by the Marx Brothers (he was something of a morbid interpretation of Harpo) and Sylvester was clearly an acolyte of Charlie Chaplin (just watch how he moves.)
The fact is, contemporary actors don't train as much in physical comedy, clowning, or mime as they once did. David's performance was just fine, but it's a product of his era.
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Re: "The Unicorn & The Wasp" (tiny spoilers)
Thu, June 19, 2008 - 1:03 AMI wish I could agree, loving the new series and all but this episode to me stands out as not only the worst episode of the new series but possibly in the entire history of the show. I think I would have to go to the incredible wretched Peter Cushing movie to get worst than this. What a terrible waste of the potential for blending the Who mythos with a character from recent history. I know I can't be alone. I've got some Brit workmates who grew up on Doctor Who (and watch it with their kids) who think this is one of the worst ever.
If this episode had half the suspense and drama of Midnight it would have been great. OMG when the vicar starts saying ""Bzzzz bzzzz". Insects make that noise from flapping their wings not from speech. What on earth were they thinking? How is it scripts like this get through. The actors did a fine job considering what they had to work with. But the script? Worst than Daleks in Manhattan.
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Re: "The Unicorn & The Wasp" (tiny spoilers)
Thu, June 19, 2008 - 4:24 PMThanks for raising the point of the buzzing sound.
Actually, this episode was a weird mixture of the best and worst of RTD-era Doctor Who. It certainly wasn't as bad as "Fear Her" from Season two-- and the fact that it had so many good qualities made the sloppy plot holes ever more obvious.
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