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George Orwell Was Right: Spy Cameras See Britons' Every Move
By Nick Allen
Dec. 22 (Bloomberg) -- It's Saturday night in Middlesbrough, England,
and drunken university students are celebrating the start of the
school year, known as Freshers' Week.
One picks up a traffic cone and runs down the street. Suddenly, a
disembodied voice booms out from above:
``You in the black jacket! Yes, you! Put it back!'' The confused
student obeys as his friends look bewildered.
``People are shocked when they hear the cameras talk, but when they
see everyone else looking at them, they feel a twinge of conscience
and comply,'' said Mike Clark, a spokesman for Middlesbrough Council
who recounted the incident. The city has placed speakers in its
cameras, allowing operators to chastise miscreants who drop coffee
cups, ride bicycles too fast or fight outside bars.
Almost 70 years after George Orwell created the all-seeing dictator
Big Brother in the novel ``1984,'' Britons are being watched as never
before. About 4.2 million spy cameras film each citizen 300 times a
day, and police have built the world's largest DNA database. Prime
Minister Tony Blair said all Britons should carry biometric
identification cards to help fight the war on terror.
``Nowhere else in the free world is this happening,'' said Helena
Kennedy, a human rights lawyer who also is a member of the House of
Lords, the upper house of Parliament. ``The American public would
find such inroads into civil liberties wholly unacceptable.''
During the past decade, the government has spent 500 million pounds
($1 billion) on spy cameras and now has one for every 14 citizens,
according to a September report prepared for Information Commissioner
Richard Thomas by the Surveillance Studies Network, a panel of U.K.
academics.
Who's In Charge?
At a single road junction in the London borough of Hammersmith, there
are 29 cameras run by police, government, private companies and
transport agencies. Police officers are even trying out video cameras
mounted on their heads.
``We've got to stand back and see where technology is taking us,''
said Thomas, whose job is to protect people's privacy. ``Humans must
dictate our future, not machines.''
Blair said citizens have to sacrifice some freedoms to fight
terrorism, illegal immigration and identity fraud.
``We have a modern world that we are living in, with new and
different types of crime,'' Blair said Nov. 6 at a press conference
in London. ``If we don't use technology in order to combat it, then
we won't be fighting crime effectively.''
Constant Monitoring
In the bowels of New Scotland Yard, the headquarters of the London
police force, a windowless room contains a giant bank of TV screens
where the city is monitored around the clock. At the touch of a
button, officers can focus on any neighborhood and zoom in on
people's faces.
Police hunting the killer of five prostitutes in Suffolk were able to
gather 10,000 hours of footage from in and around Ipswich.
By 2016, there will be cameras using facial recognition technology
embedded in lampposts, according to the Surveillance Studies report.
Unmanned spy planes will monitor the movements of citizens, while
criminals and the elderly will be implanted with microchips to track
their movements, the report says.
``The level of surveillance in this country should shock people,''
said David Murakami Wood, a lecturer at the University of Newcastle
who headed the study. ``It is infiltrating everything we do.''
Wood is also concerned about the U.K.'s growing DNA database. The
files contain the genetic codes of more than 3.8 million people, or
5.2 percent of the population. By comparison, the U.S. has the DNA
records of 0.5 percent of its residents.
DNA matches helped solve 45,000 crimes in the U.K. last year,
including 422 murders, 645 rapes and 9,000 burglaries, according to
the Home Office. But the database isn't foolproof.
Burglar Who Wasn't
Police who knocked on Raymond Easton's door in Swindon, England, in
1999 were certain he had committed burglary at a house 200 miles (300
kilometers) away. DNA found at the scene was a 37 million-to-1 match
with Easton's sample, which had been taken three years earlier.
Easton, a former construction worker, had Parkinson's disease and
could barely dress himself. He was still charged. Further tests
proved he had never been to Bolton, where the burglary occurred,
according to the Greater Manchester police.
``Britain's DNA database is spiraling out of control,'' said Helen
Wallace, deputy director of GeneWatch U.K., which campaigns for
responsible use of genetic science. ``It could allow an unprecedented
level of government surveillance.''
Other government plans include loading the confidential medical
records of 50 million patients in the state-run health system onto a
central database without their consent.
Most controversial of all are Blair's biometric ID cards linked to a
national register holding every citizen's fingerprints, iris or face
scan. Starting in 2010, anyone renewing or applying for a passport
will have to get one.
``Desperate for some sort of legacy, the prime minister has nothing
to offer but Blair's Big Brother Britain,'' said Phil Booth, national
coordinator of the anti-ID card group NO2ID.
To contact the reporter on this story: Nick Allen in London at
nallen14@bloomberg.net .
Last Updated: December 21, 2006 19:00 EST
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Re: new enemy for the doctor
Fri, May 9, 2008 - 5:13 PMThey've had CCTV in the UK for YEARS. Basically, Torchwood Cardiff could not function without it. :-D
I recall an episode of Top Gear with Gordon Ramsey were he mentions carrying around clingwrap in your car. When you approach a speed camera, get out and wrap the camera in plastic so it can't snap a photo of your license plate while speeding!
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 5:09 AM``The American public would find such inroads into civil liberties wholly unacceptable.''
Surely this wasn't said with a straight face. While CCTV surveillance is not nearly as widespread or centralized as it is in the UK, any American who lives or works in a metropolitan area does come under video surveillanance dozens of times a day: shopping, on public transit, at the bank, anywhere there is a cell phone. Hell, I even have a tracking device in my wallet so that I can ride the subway (of course, if you pay in cash, the card cannot be traced to you as an individual.)
Oh, and most importantly, we have a president who has stated several times the right to declare anyone an "enemy combatant" for whom neither international nor American standards of human rights apply: the right of habeus corpus, trial by jury, the right not to be tortured, the right not to be murdered in captivity (if there's no lawful trial, can it be a lawful execution?) And we have one presidential candidate who supports this.
he American public would find such inroads into civil liberties wholly unacceptable.''
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 10:09 AM``The American public would find such inroads into civil liberties wholly unacceptable.''
Sorry We here in US have become Sheepeple Camera are show up every day now if all place I find it very sad.
In the town i live in it has gone from nice small town to a large over grown town and the just put in 2 traffic camera at to intersections that have been noted for people driving badly. but I noted on top of most lites in this area we also have CCTV..
They are are all over slowly showing up. Buildings ,parking lots,parks Even the ATM cameras now are recording with out anyone in front of them so just in case some walks by that may be a wanted.
We are being watched 24/7 and the tech for these cameras are getting better and better they can scan faces fater now and that tech has gone into digital cameras for everyday uses .
WE here in the Don't see it as it happing slowly with out people knowing or even caring it is happing our civil liberties are gone due to 9/11 and those who write bad laws and wait for event like 9/11 to get people to believe we need to crush civil liberties to be safe.
Even typing this i know some one somewhere will be watching it and noting i am not happy with the state of of wold... Orwell was right we will fail to see when our civil liberties will fall and we will fall into a dark times. WE have to fight and make sure those we elect into office protects those rights and civil liberties.
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 11:02 AMThere's no need for the government to curb our civil liberties, because there is no meaningful opposition to worry about. When 9/11 happened, most people in the US, including ostensibly intelligent people, got swept up into militarism and enthusiastically got behind the government. Imagine what would happen if a more serious crisis occured. There's no need to invest in surveillance and repression when the people police themselves just fine.
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 2:11 PM"Even typing this i know some one somewhere will be watching it and noting i am not happy with the state of of world... "
You know that tribe.net is on the "internet" right? You're typing to the public. -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 3:14 AMBTW did I even tell anyone what do for a living? I do cyber security..well I computer consultant I do tons of different things a bit more than tech support I get to a lot of fun stuff i can't talk about but for most i just make sure people aren't doing bad thing with other peoples computers and or try to take over the world.. but anyone would try do something mad is still beyond me.
Knowing that people are watching is a big thing ...they still need to know who and how to find you .never make it easy ..never give more info online than you need to.....
even out here I having give more than I need too and not that much is fact...
When dealing with people that can make you disappear be a shadow of no one...hide in plan sight..
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 6:48 PMHere's a map of surveilance socieites:
www.privacyinternational.org/art...html
I wouldn't mind the police waering mini-cameras because they'd probably be more useful to defandants than anything else when the police go over the top.
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 8:33 AMThe sad thing is that most people who cite "1984" apparently never read the book since the only thing they seem to cite is the ubiquity of video surveillance when there were far more chilling aspects of the novel, like:
1. Torture.
2. Perpetual war in order to maintain a certain class hierarchy.
3. A centralized media in which all historical record is rewritten to bring it in line with present policies.
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:28 AMI think some people get a thrill out of feeling they are a much greater threat to the government than they really are. The sad truth is, the governments in rich countries like the US or UK don't have to use such costly police-state methods, at least not at anything approaching 1984 levels. Some people can simply be bought off and others fooled by the various democratic games. As long as folks think that voting in elections between two or three barely distinguishable parties makes a difference, a serious opposition to the class hierarchy will not emerge. The Iraq war for instance faced open opposition from the beginning, which only grew as the years went by, but this opposition comes from typical patriotic, pro-status quo premises for the most part. For first world ruling classes, an armored democracy is much more effective than open fascism in maintaining their rule. Which is not to say that these governments do not have immense repressive potential in their resources- this will come into play when major crises compel people to think and act differently. -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 4:44 PMThe ruling coalitions of rich countries like the US or the UK can also maintain the status quo simply by getting enough people convinced that voting actually doesn't make a difference and that parties are indistinguishable. -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 5:06 PMOnly if voting was the only way to make a difference. It isn't.
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 11:00 AMI don't feel these three additional elements are lacking in my government... at least not to the extent it can get away with under the layman's radar. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 5:03 PM1. Torture.
2. Perpetual war in order to maintain a certain class hierarchy.
3. A centralized media in which all historical record is rewritten to bring it in line with present policies.
And those are just three off the top of my head. Are these really less scary than security cameras?
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 5:20 PMI agree with #1, but I really don't see any realistic examples of #2-3. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. I'm not justifying the actions of our government, not at all. However, we should be thankful that things are not as bad as they could be. After all, we could be living in Burma. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 7:04 PMand a few years ago, the burmese were musing about how it could be worse... they could be living in Louisiana....
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 4:39 AMActually the bit about perpetual war in order to destroy surplus wealth and thus maintain class hierarchy is a major theme of "1984" that seems to be ignored when the novel is taught in schools-- probably because it was a terribly prescient description of life in both super-powers during the cold-war. Even a Republican like Eisenhower made such observations in his later years about how the arms race was just the other side of the coin of poverty and political disenfranchisement.
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 7:28 AMI think that's Orwell showing his socialist background, because it was a standard Leninist thesis about one aspect of imperialism- the capitalist states get to a point where they are just alternating between building wealth and waging wars to get rid of surplus (not just fixed capital but people too). The elements of 1984 that show it to be almost as much a critique of standard capitalism as Stalinism (which is really just state capitalism) tend to get ignored generally. Eg, "If there's hope, it's with the proles"--- they're not going to talk about that much either.
Obviously, the reality of today is a little more complex than Orwell's 1984 would predict, so unqualified comparisons sound a little shrill.
I think Amadeo Bordiga back in the 50's had some very prescient things to say about the role of "natural" disasters in the capitalist economy as well, as an excellent way of destroying "dead" wealth (eg Katrina). www.geocities.com/capitolhi...tdtoc.html
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 8:54 AM<Of course, that was the cold-war, we wouldn't see such a thing today. ;) >
regrettably ian, that kind of sarcasm is lost on some people.
the US is a war economy. pure and simple. has been for decades.
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 1:58 PM"The US is a war economy. pure and simple. has been for decades. "
Interestingly enough, we see this dynamic all over the world. One could argue that the Hamas government in Gaza deliberately fights a war they cannot possibly win instead of negotiating a lasting peace and developing the economy, simply because it keeps the Palestinian citizenry too weak to overthrow a regime that does not rule in their interest.
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 1:46 PM"I think that's Orwell showing his socialist background"
You do realize that the dominant political party in 1984's Oceana was IngSoc (English Socialism)? While the rival superpowers were EurAsia (obviously a satire on the USSR) and EastAsia (The PRC.) He was clearly criticizing communism as an imperialist power and noting that the only thing separating the communist totalitarianism and the worst abuses of capitalism is the rhetoric. In fact, as a biographical note, he became an informant to MI5 reporting on suspected communist infiltrators because despite his socialism, he considered the Soviet system to be a genuine threat to human dignity.
If Orwell is showing his socialist background it's not in terms of being biased against capitalism as it was seeing both luxury and poverty as methods of political control.
"If there's hope, it's with the proles"
Yep, and that was clearly stated with some irony on Orwell's part, even if poor Winston Smith wasn't in on the joke.
"Amadeo Bordiga [...] had some [...] things to say about the role of "natural" disasters in the capitalist economy as well, as an excellent way of destroying "dead" wealth (eg Katrina)"
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 5:12 PMStalinism (USSR, PRC) and genuine socialism were separate in Orwell's mind. If you read Homage to Catalonia you can see his direct experience of the difference during the Spanish Civil War. He was strongly influenced by the critique made of the Soviet Union, on the part of anarchists and left-communists, as a "state capitalist" society. Whatever the SU was, it wasn't socialist. Like the Soviet Union and China, Orwell's Oceania calls itself "socialist" but acts in a basically capitalist way. The difference is, capital is in the hands of the state and not individual capitalists constituting a class. Orwell's work for MI5 was not despite his socialism, since he didn't consider the Stalinists to be real socialists, and had some very embittering personal experiences with them. -
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 7:07 PMYour point being what?
That Orwell was correct in noting that Communism used socialist rhetoric to justify cruel totalitarian state-capitalism? That Orwell was correct in noting that war (whether hot, cold, or proxy) was a good way of maintaining domestic class hierarchy and social control? That he saw the socialist movement of which he was affiliated as being in danger of being infiltrated by Stalinists? And that seeing this that he was naƮve?
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 4:16 PM1984 is largely informed by Orwell's socialist background. It is a critique of capitalism, albeit a peculiar form of capitalism. A genuine socialist/ communist society, if such a thing is possible, would have no class hierarchy to maintain through war, no money, no superprofits to exploit from other nations, in fact, no nations or states at all.
Affiliating to a socialist or communist movement while maintaining a principled stance against certain perverted elements doesn't make one naive, Orwell's confusion during WWII notwithstanding. Perhaps it is naive to hope for socialism at all, but no more so than hoping for world peace or other ideals which are quite possibly unattainable but which are nevertheless worth reaching for. -
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 6:48 PMwhich is exactly how i feel about doctor who!
Perhaps it is naive to hope for a better Doctor Who than the mostly crap RTD slings at us, but no more so than hoping for world peace or other ideals which are quite possibly unattainable but which are nevertheless worth reaching for.
i'm hoping that the moffat two parter will be as great as his other DW writing. so far this season, the non-RTD (and his proxy, Raynor) stuff has been pretty good.
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 9:12 AMFYI Alan Moore points out that when looking for a way to illustrate fascism in his book V for Vendetta he settled on the idea of video cameras everywhere in Britain ... and apparently the powers that be thought that a really good idea. -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 10:22 AMI'm not anti video cameras at all. Honestly I'm not doing anything illegal... and if I am ... I LIKE WHEN THEY WATCH.
Course they don't have these cams in Toronto yet so maybe I'm speaking too soon.
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 10:32 AM"I'm not anti video cameras at all. Honestly I'm not doing anything illegal"
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 3:47 PMAh but that's a fight for when that day comes. Those cameras don't do that yet and if such liberties are infringed upon you can be damn sure there will be public upheaval ..but honestly it's be proven that cameras can reduce crime when placed in an area reduces crime. Let's wait for skynet to come online before we get too paranoid shall we? *Goes back to work at Cyberdine* -
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 12:37 PM"Let us indeed re-read Orwell -- a man of the left who nevertheless refused to be gulled by the left, an intellectual hero who condemned Socialist hypocrisy and Communist barbarity just as readily as he condemned Bourgeois hypocrisy and Fascist barbarity.... Orwell did not adopt a "Right eye open, left eye blind" attitude, especially when discussing the misuse of language.
Orwell had courage, insight and talent. These qualities made him the greatest political essayist ever to write in English."
I agree with this sentiment.
Fenn writes:
"and if such liberties are infringed upon" HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 4:42 PMWhile I don't want to detract from Orwell's genuine intellectual courage, he suffered a severe lapse in internationalist principles during WWII and succumbed to nationalism and militarism (like most left-wing intellectuals, to be fair). -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 2:55 PMyou mean he made mistakes
did things that he later regretted....
oh my God head for the hills....
who has ever heard of such things.
Horrible, just horrible.
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 9:32 PM> Orwell [...] suffered a severe lapse in internationalist
> principles during WWII and succumbed to
> nationalism and militarism
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 10:12 PMNo, I mean Orwell succumbed to British nationalism and hitched himself to a propaganda machine of the very sort he critiqued so trenchantly elsewhere. Borrowing Stalinist logic, he referred to pacifists and anti-militarists as "objectively" aiding Hitler. It's this kind of crap that Hitchens et al dug up after 9/11 to justify their own pro-war rhetoric.
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 9:37 PM> [Alan Moore] settled on the idea of video cameras everywhere in Britain
> ... and apparently the powers that be thought that a really good idea.
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Wed, May 21, 2008 - 3:36 PMyes ian, point taken -- we need to keep those things in mind as well.
as for orwell's political orientation -- who cares? seems like splitting hairs. where ever he stood politically, it does not make the book invalid -- and even more to the point, it does not make ubiquitous monitoring of our activities any less of a human rights violation (yes, like torture and suspension of due process).
forget all about orwell and focus on the issue!
if the price of democracy is eternal vigilance (against such tyranny), then democracy ain't worth much. "democracy" just means the powerful refrain from taking too much power, lest they get overthrown. or they take it in good time, with all that vaunted "due process."
it's just like it's always been -- we have to fight against people who would enslave us.
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